6 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

That looks gross!

90S FOR @Analog1888 AND @Snowlover76

19 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

That looks gross!

Its an op run. Grain of salt.

18 minutes ago, VIRGAMAN said:

90S FOR @Analog1888 AND @Snowlover76

Um no, the normal is in the low 3os, so that's 50s.

2 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

Um no, the normal is in the low 3os, so that's 50s.

Cold continental. Must be a big change, and welcome change from the temperate east coast climate you left.

2 minutes ago, Graupel said:

Cold continental. Must be a big change, and welcome change from the temperate east coast climate you left.

Yes, summers are just about as warm, but with cooler nights.

But winters are solidly colder.

It looks like from now until about New Year's, we are going to oscillate between a few normal to slightly below normal days and a few much above normal days.

Still firmly believe the hammer comes down after New Years.

There is a very strong signal for this.

6 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

It looks like from now until about New Year's, we are going to oscillate between a few normal to slightly below normal days and a few much above normal days.

Still firmly believe the hammer comes down after New Years.

There is a very strong signal for this.

Nebraska or here? (or both)

21 minutes ago, Metfan88 said:

Its an op run. Grain of salt.

9 days away but honestly I can see either option working out-a few hundred mile shift in the boundary is certainly possible either way-warm/cold

8 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Nebraska or here? (or both)

Both, but probably here first, and you get stronger cold shots early.

If I may, I want to make a few comments about the upcoming pattern and what could go wrong and just some comments on a personal level.

I truly believe the cold will come back with a vengeance in January, and the STJ becomes more active promoting an overall more active storm track for the entire country.

However, what if it doesn't? First of all, I live in NE Nebraska, where it could probably be +5 and still be cold enough to snow in the heart of winter.

I prefer snow to cold anyway. I would rather it be 30 degrees and snowing than -30 and dry.

That kind of cold doesn't do any good for anything anyway. So what if it doesn't snow and winter is warm and boring? Now that I live somewhere where the air is clean and doesn't smell like fumes all day, I'll enjoy the outdoors more.

Contrary to popular belief, Nebraska is not flat and boring.
That's Kansas. There is a lot to do here if you like nature and the state is full of rolling hills and archaeological sites.

After I turned about 35, I learned to do what Joe Bastardi says: Enjoy the weather- it's the only weather you got!

If it's cold and snowy, I'll enjoy it! I'll go for "Jebwalks" when I can and have cocoa, etc. If it's warm, I'll go for scenic drives, walks, exercise more, keep my car cleaner, etc.

Do I prefer cold and snowy? Absolutely? Am I disappointed that we won't have a white Christmas this year?
Of course I am. But am I going to lose sleep and throw tantrums over something I have absolutely zero control over?

HELL NO! No grown man should throw tantrums over something they can't control- like weather or sports.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and enjoy whatever weather you get, because you cannot control it!

1 hour ago, jjvesnow said:

That looks gross!

Can't say I didnt warn people

58 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

9 days away but honestly I can see either option working out-a few hundred mile shift in the boundary is certainly possible either way-warm/cold

Torch runs verify more often it seems. Remember March 2012?

5 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

GFS XMAS EVE

2 hours ago, Graupel said:

Cold continental. Must be a big change, and welcome change from the temperate east coast climate you left.

12z and 18z were 51 xmas eve. Christmas day was upper 30s

3 hours ago, tmagan said:

Their latest CLI has 2.9" for the month of December.

I saw 4.4" this morning but now its back to 2.9"...I should have taken a screen shot of it...

1 minute ago, uncle w said:

I saw 4.4" this morning but now its back to 2.9"...I should have taken a screen shot of it...

Bizarre.

Just now, uncle w said:

I saw 4.4" this morning but now its back to 2.9"...I should have taken a screen shot of it...

They said it was an error. @Sundog posted on the other site a video from fox weather that was live at like 8am in central park with a ruler in snow showing 3" and it snowed for like 3 hours after that with good rates. Its a total bs measurement

On 12/4/2025 at 10:47 PM, Mjh609 said:

I said it last night, models are struggling with everything evolving right now. Tanking soi/nina, -qbo, into phase 8, etc. storms are going to start to pop 12/12 onward. Models have to catch up. They’ve been days behind all season so far.

I don’t get many (none) wins. I’m gonna take this one. I’ll see myself out. 😂.

the LE for the last storm...the le was even across the area...I measured 5.7" so my le was more...almost 0.70"...Central Park and Laguardia both had around a 5 to 1 ratio...temperatures were pretty uniform too across the city, but the ratios differ...

place.............precipitation/snowfall...

Central Park...0.54"...2.9"...

LGA...................0.56"...2.6"...

Kennedy..........0.55"...4.6"...

Newark............0.52"...4.1"...

Harrison..........0.55"...3.9"...

1 hour ago, uncle w said:

the LE for the last storm...the le was even across the area...I measured 5.7" so my le was more...almost 0.70"...Central Park and Laguardia both had around a 5 to 1 ratio...temperatures were pretty uniform too across the city, but the ratios differ...

place.............precipitation/snowfall...

Central Park...0.54"...2.9"...

LGA...................0.56"...2.6"...

Kennedy..........0.55"...4.6"...

Newark............0.52"...4.1"...

Harrison..........0.55"...3.9"...

My first 4” were heavy slop, the last 5” were higher ratio fluff from the banding. Total LE .72 for 9” snow

If you look at the ECMWF forecast minimum for Central Park on Tuesday (12F), you can see it is way above the actual minimum that will take place. With any ECMWF (including EPS and weeklies) anomaly map for surface temperature this time of year, I would add two degrees Celsius/three degrees Fahrenheit.