'Possible' that we can see small chunks of ice down the Hudson River west of NYC in late December.

2 hours ago, tmagan said:

GFS and HRRR have Central Park dew point temperatures near (-10F) late in the overnight hours. That is almost unheard of this time of year. HRRR has dew point temperatures at the same time nearly twenty degrees higher.

Meant to say in the last sentence: 'RRFS-A has dew point temperatures at the same time nearly twenty degrees higher.'

NYC's coldest 30 days starting with 1960...I would imagine there was plenty of ice floating in NYC waters and beyond...I remember taking the Staten Island ferry in 2004 and there was a lot of ice along the way...

1976-77...21.9 degrees...mostly January...

1980-81...22.2 degrees...late dec to late Jan...

2003-04...22.5 degrees...mostly January...

1993-94...23.5 degrees...mostly January...

2014-15...23.9 degrees...mostly February...

1969-70...24.0 degrees...late Dec to late Jan...

1970-71...24.2 degrees...late Dec to late Jan...

1960-61...24.6 degrees...early Jan to early Feb...

1967-68...25.1 degrees...early Jan to early Feb...

1981-82...25.2 degrees...mostly January...

1989-90...25.3 degrees...mostly December...

2006-07...25.8 degrees...late Jan to late Feb...

1962-63...25.9 degrees...mid Jan to mid Feb...

2002-03...25.9 degrees...Jan to Feb...

1978-79...26.0 degrees...mostly February...

25 minutes ago, Ray8002 said:

Yup and so far it’s starting off like last season. Let’s hope our luck finally changes.

It’s brutal. It’s like a straight line from me to you. 😂 and Ben Solo who should be in our boat sneaks out an extra 6-10.

3 minutes ago, PaulTarsus said:

Weird evolution for this.

11 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

28° and falling and I ice tomorrow? 😩

6 minutes ago, PaulTarsus said:

540 line charlotte and I rain. Models have no clue right now. Struggling with multiple teleconnections. 

5 minutes ago, FrankPizz said:

Weird evolution for this.

Wait. That was the 0z ICON?

X

I said it last night, models are struggling with everything evolving right now. Tanking soi/nina, -qbo, into phase 8, etc. storms are going to start to pop 12/12 onward. Models have to catch up. They’ve been days behind all season so far.

10 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

Wait. That was the 0z ICON?

Yes

3 hours ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

@Analog1888 told me wall to wall cold.

3 minutes ago, Snowlover76 said:

@Analog1888 told me wall to wall cold.

Thats a 6 hour fix bro.

10 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Thats a 6 hour fix bro.

He thinks a map that shows that his area is 3 degrees warmer than last run means a torch. He is too stupid to understand anything. He probably had to repeat red means hot and blue means cold for weeks when he went to school.

Lol

Models keep unleashing cold air.

7.8 degrees with a 20 mph wind, brutal at 4 am