16 minutes ago, BMC10 said:

You really think all these weeks of cold and we will have nothing to show for it? At some point something has to pop. Cold is an important ingredient.

A Clipper or 2, sure.

But without blocking in a fast flow environment how ?

22 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

A Clipper or 2, sure.

But without blocking in a fast flow environment how ?

What kind of blocking? We have a Greenland block.

23 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

A Clipper or 2, sure.

But without blocking in a fast flow environment how ?

You never know, the weather sometimes does surprises, besides December snow is bonus snow. Most of us get our significant snows in January and feb

2 minutes ago, BMC10 said:

What kind of blocking? We have a Greenland block.

Kind of gone by the 14th and you have a - PNA so the flow in the long wave length regime cant buckle.

I think a Clipper or 2 could snow but you have zero STJ cutting under

So that block and - PNA out of the N branch cut because the + EPO only allows the boundary to only go so far

You can get these in a fast flow pattern

But I said I have punted all big storms in December

2 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

You can get these in a fast flow pattern

But I said I have punted all big storms in December

I remember people punting December 2010. It only takes 1 storm.

Patience

Coating of snow here overnight

7 minutes ago, Metfan88 said:

I remember people punting December 2010. It only takes 1 storm.

Patience

It won't be like 2010. That blocking pattern isn't there. December 2000 for sure is more like it. Even that had a great snow event.

Several clippers can add up and are welcomed with this cold regime.

All eyes on a N Branch feature for next weekend for someone's 1st accumulating snow

3 minutes ago, Chris L said:

It won't be like 2010. That blocking pattern isn't there. December 2000 for sure is more like it. Even that had a great snow event.

We have a negative nao. And who is to say a more stout block doesn’t show up later this month. It’s December 6.

Just now, BMC10 said:

Several clippers can add up and are welcomed with this cold regime.

I was specifically talking about a big system

N branch features yeh.

The fast flow pattern is repeating

So maybe we get a 1-3 inch clipper. Etc

1 minute ago, BMC10 said:

We have a negative nao. And who is to say a more stout block doesn’t show up later this month. It’s December 6.

I think the PV dives at some point 

1 minute ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

I was specifically talking about a big system

N branch features yeh.

The fast flow pattern is repeating

So maybe we get a 1-3 inch clipper. Etc

Overrunning events are possible but they usually happen deeper into winter.

18 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

You can get these in a fast flow pattern

But I said I have punted all big storms in December

And another one right behind it.

1 minute ago, BMC10 said:

And another one right behind it.

If you can get the right track, it can be very wintry with a few advisory level events. The track is obviously key though.

Yeah I rained below freezing as well. Lol

Can’t make it up.

25 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Kind of gone by the 14th and you have a - PNA so the flow in the long wave length regime cant buckle.

I think a Clipper or 2 could snow but you have zero STJ cutting under

So that block and - PNA out of the N branch cut because the + EPO only allows the boundary to only go so far

Question?..is phase 8 of the MJO -PNA and +EPO?..or that's just part of the equation?

They just treated the road.

13 minutes ago, BMC10 said:

Several clippers can add up and are welcomed with this cold regime.

Absolutely and with just enough blocking when it shows these can become a bit moderate like a 3-5" event. Keep the train of clippers coming and Ill take it. Hey 1983 had this leading up to a tremendously cold Xmas..

Who knew we'd get an accumulation overnight just 2 days ago? Surprises may abound this winter.