Just had a real bright red sunrise, and then BOOM, started snowing hard with big flakes!

Temp 26

13 minutes ago, Keith P.A said:

Question?..is phase 8 of the MJO -PNA and +EPO?..or that's just part of the equation?

- WPO P8 will keep us cold.

I like the clipper type not the ku type

1 minute ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

- WPO P8 will keep us cold.

I like the clipper type not the ku type

-EPO is better for the Northeast than -WPO. -WPO favors the midwest more for snow.

I just have gotten a light coating before it melted because I still see a couple of small white patches on some soil.

Impressive

9 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

-EPO is better for the Northeast than -WPO. -WPO favors the midwest more for snow.

Im aware but right now all we have is a - WPO.

It drives the cold SE

2 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Im aware but right now all we have is a - WPO.

It drives the cold SE

I think that's why it's been consistently colder/snowier out here than intially progged.

Wednesday night looked like rain showers, now it's looking more like accumulating snow.

I’ll gladly take some light or moderate snowfalls with consistent cold. Wintry feel

3 minutes ago, BMC10 said:

I’ll gladly take some light or moderate snowfalls with consistent cold. Wintry feel

I think thats the general themse of the pattern leading up from next week into xmas

2 hours ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Rained hard at 30f

For real!?

Parents took this picture in Montgomery Township, NJ

Patience

7 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

For real!?

29. Yeh.

Just now, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

29. Yeh.

So weird. I don’t expect that.

Did you get some glazing?

5 minutes ago, Metfan88 said:

Patience

1 month in p8

Just now, jjvesnow said:

So weird. I don’t expect that.

Did you get some glazing?

Nah

Dried up

Ended up with a coating here.

Cold la nina or weak neg Decembers without a KU storm...Dec with an average temp 36.0 or lower...

year.....big snow...

1954.....0.1"

1955.....2.7"

1964.....2.7"

1970.....1.8"

1975.....2.0"

1980.....1.0"

1983.....1.0"

1985.....0.4"

1988.....0.3"

2005.....5.7"

2017.....4.6"

Cold la nina or weak neg Decembers with a KU...

1966.....7.1"..

1995.....7.9"..

2000...12.0"

2010...20.0"

15 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Nah

Dried up

Got glazed deck & front steps from ice & some snow!

Where do we go from p8?

Looking back, 1993-94 had really no blocking until the end of the winter.

Maybe that's why it started a bit late and the first snow event was a clipper.

We had a lot of overunning that year and finally got a big coastal in March when we got a little blocking.

You can have a very good winter without a ton of blocking, but blocking is more important in December.