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December map, observations, punch and pie

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Both AI models at 6z

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EURO at 6z

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22 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Snow on a sw wind like that?

1 minute ago, jjvesnow said:

Snow on a sw wind like that?

If the wind is light and you started cold, it is possible.

This keeps happening

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5 minutes ago, SnowMiser123 said:

This keeps happening

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Yeh this just doesn't support a ridge in the east

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11 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

If the wind is light and you started cold, it is possible.

Possible yeah. Just not very common down in my area.

2 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

Possible yeah. Just not very common down in my area.

And SW winds at least are blowing off land, so if it's still relatively cold to your SW, you still don't have to worry about oceanic component.

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First T Giving was going to be warm

Then the opening of December would warm.

Then there was a SE ridge by the 10th

Then they said we warm by the 20th.

If we kept calling for cold and it busted like this for 4 straight weeks wouldn't you just think were incompetent and unreadable ?

I would.

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4 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

First T Giving was going to be warm

Then the opening of December would warm.

Then there was a SE ridge by the 10th

Then they said we warm by the 20th.

If we kept calling for cold and it busted like this for 4 straight weeks wouldn't you just think were incompetent and unreadable ?

I would.

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We keep correcting to a 2010-ish pattern of -WPO/-PNA/-NAO.

This plot is not dissimilar to the PNA

2 minutes ago, SnowMiser123 said:

We keep correcting to a 2010-ish pattern of -WPO/-PNA/-NAO.

This plot is not dissimilar to the PNA

all we need is for the ao/nao to go very neg like 2010 had...its not there yet...

1 minute ago, uncle w said:

all we need is for the ao/nao to go very neg like 2010 had...its not there yet...

Yeah, biggest difference in that composite is the strength of the -NAO in 2010 vs what we've seen so far MTD.

nao/ao for DEC 2010...

2010 11 25 -2.522
2010 11 26 -2.632
2010 11 27 -2.527
2010 11 28 -2.317
2010 11 29 -2.504
2010 11 30 -2.696
2010 12  1 -2.043
2010 12  2 -1.667
2010 12  3 -1.744
2010 12  4 -1.545
2010 12  5 -1.211
2010 12  6 -1.082
2010 12  7 -1.106
2010 12  8 -1.036
2010 12  9 -0.801
2010 12 10 -0.707
2010 12 11 -0.693
2010 12 12 -0.862
2010 12 13 -1.416
2010 12 14 -1.544
2010 12 15 -1.279
2010 12 16 -1.119
2010 12 17 -1.229
2010 12 18 -1.533
2010 12 19 -1.304
2010 12 20 -0.740
2010 12 21 -0.543
2010 12 22 -0.832
2010 12 23 -1.187
2010 12 24 -1.343
2010 12 25 -1.144
2010 12 26 -0.834
ao
2010 11 26 -4.058
2010 11 27 -3.935
2010 11 28 -2.856
2010 11 29 -2.253
2010 11 30 -1.377
2010 12  1 -0.372
2010 12  2  0.135
2010 12  3 -0.464
2010 12  4 -1.355
2010 12  5 -1.507
2010 12  6 -2.201
2010 12  7 -2.306
2010 12  8 -1.664
2010 12  9 -0.363
2010 12 10 -0.233
2010 12 11 -1.096
2010 12 12 -1.573
2010 12 13 -1.890
2010 12 14 -2.148
2010 12 15 -2.650
2010 12 16 -3.598
2010 12 17 -4.549
2010 12 18 -5.265
2010 12 19 -4.695
2010 12 20 -4.111
2010 12 21 -4.230
2010 12 22 -3.988
2010 12 23 -3.692
2010 12 24 -3.862
2010 12 25 -3.827
2010 12 26 -2.886
2010 12 27 -2.532
2010 12 28 -2.776
2010 12 29 -2.966
2010 12 30 -3.018
2010 12 31 -2.982

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17 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

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6z euro is more amplified with this wave

Flurries here

37 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

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I would also assume There would be more coming in the next frame

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