2 minutes ago, SnowMiser123 said:

Still likes to lift heights ahead of it despite heading due east, really frustrating

It's also yet another low by W VA/PA.

I'd take it of course, I'm not crazy

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Still likes to lift heights ahead of it despite heading due east, really frustrating

It's also yet another low by W VA/PA.

I'd take it of course, I'm not crazy

it's too bad-this is reminding me of Dec 1989-great cold but just nothing wants to work out snow wise.

1 hour ago, SnowMiser123 said:

Yeah, biggest difference in that composite is the strength of the -NAO in 2010 vs what we've seen so far MTD.

I think it's more comparable to December 2000 than 2010.

10 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

it's too bad-this is reminding me of Dec 1989-great cold but just nothing wants to work out snow wise.

It's more like December 2000.

8 minutes ago, Chris L said:

It's more like December 2000.

December 2000 had a +WPO/+PNA - so much different across the Pacific than this December so far.

The GEFS extended takes the NAO / AO negative between Christmas and New Years.

Period of snow/sleet norther west.

47 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

Period of snow/sleet norther west.

Icon is similiar

49 minutes ago, jjvesnow said:

Period of snow/sleet norther west.

Would be some nice "mood" snow. Still have a solid 1" on parts of my yard and most non-South facing roofs here.

2 hours ago, Chris L said:

It's more like December 2000.

the ao/nao was very neg before the 2000 snowstorm...

2000 12 23 -4.133
2000 12 24 -4.216
2000 12 25 -4.343
2000 12 26 -4.208
2000 12 27 -4.239
2000 12 28 -4.635
2000 12 29 -4.688
2000 12 30 -4.115
2000 12 31 -3.606
nao..
2000 12 24 -1.185
2000 12 25 -1.059
2000 12 26 -0.927
2000 12 27 -0.921
2000 12 28 -0.845
2000 12 29 -0.658
2000 12 30 -0.537
2000 12 31 -0.353

13 minutes ago, Keith O said:

Would be some nice "mood" snow. Still have a solid 1" on parts of my yard and most non-South facing roofs here.

GFS gets another coating or so too. At least we are getting a little bit here and there...

temps have been dropping all morning, started with 27.8 at 6 am, now at 11 am it is 21.7 with a stiff breeze

22 minutes ago, Keith O said:

Would be some nice "mood" snow. Still have a solid 1" on parts of my yard and most non-South facing roofs here.

same here and the freezing rain made some of it cement

GFS is going to be interesting.

2 hours ago, SnowMiser123 said:

December 2000 had a +WPO/+PNA - so much different across the Pacific than this December so far.

I was mostly talking about the cold temperatures but it's a different pattern as we know. But the cold is similar.

So the AI models had this first and we are starting to see it translate onto the ops models now.