2 hours ago, Analog1888 said:

Yes but the mjo was supposed to be in the cold phase until further notice, not jump right to warm

terrible trends last 2 days now it looks warm last 7-10 days of the month

2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

terrible trends last 2 days now it looks warm last 7-10 days of the month

Far too early to say that. I really don't focus on any specifics beyond 7 days or so.
There's just so much volaitlity. I can remember several times when we were certain something would happen and the exact opposite verified.

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Thats cold

7 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

terrible trends last 2 days now it looks warm last 7-10 days of the month

Read the last page of posts on this and mine as well. Euro AI has been the best sniffing out the cold in LR only to trend stronger.

GFS is starting to show this to as posted.

Just now, amugs said:

Read the last page of posts on this and mine as well. Euro AI has been the best sniffing out the cold in LR only to trend stronger.

GFS is starting to show this to as posted.

Trend has been for the cold to be stronger as we get closer so let's hope but the Euro had that stronger +EPO, hope the -WPO holds

Just now, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Thats cold

Brother, you, me and a few others I have been harping like a fidle in the Charley Danile's Band playing this tune since Mid October that EVERY warm up has been knocked down like Gerry Cooney against Larry Holmes

5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Trend has been for the cold to be stronger as we get closer so let's hope but the Euro had that stronger +EPO, hope the -WPO holds

It's the +TNH pattern and the Ozone levels over the Arctic Region especially the WPO and EPO regions that are driving things. The great Isotherm would talk about this in his annual State of The Winter write ups.

4 minutes ago, amugs said:

It's the +TNH pattern and the Ozone levels over the Arctic Region especially the WPO and EPO regions that are driving things. The great Isotherm would talk about this in his annual State of The Winter write ups.

I miss that guy and his writeups I don't think he's on any of the boards anymore

I will wait until Thursday to make any kind of real call.

Will wait and see the SW get out of a sparse area.

Once the RAOBS grabs it we will get a better look.

The -PDO is rising, the waters off of the east coast of Japan have cooled, the waters south of Alaska have warmed up againthe NINA is going to be weakening if it hasn’t started to already. We are in a much better position than we were last year. I don’t believe for one second that we are going to just warm up and reverse this pattern, if anything I could see us getting colder with then adding snow to the mix probably not until January but once it starts we will see snowy period.

I wish we could bring back the posts from 11 years ago from December 2014 and I don’t think anybody was predicting the winter we were a bad to get for the second half of January through March. It was like winter was over in December 2014.

We have the cold now and maybe we get lucky on Sunday but there will be more substantial cold and snow as we go into January. This will NOT be Dec 1989-Jan 1990 2.0

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and another virginia snowstorm

Every model looks like shit except the Ai models

More amped

The warmup is real

Roundy was right about it. Probably 7 to 10 days before the cold comes back.

Something like the 18th thru the very end of December ?

Cant tell

Lets try and snow this weekend b4 worrying about week 2 or week 3

Just letting you know my thoughts