1 hour ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

guess I will be stranded in saratoga if this verifies LOL @StatenWx

23 minutes ago, VIRGAMAN said:

guess I will be stranded in saratoga if this verifies LOL @StatenWx

You can come stay at my place I got a couch

These are CAD set ups w a 5050

Just now, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

That would be amazing

Imagine

Can anyone tell me if there's a high pressure system available for that system?

Just now, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Imagine

To @Ben H's point - it's not the best pattern late December by any means. But cold air just to the north instead of on the other side of the globe does make a big difference in terms of making winter weather events possible with timing.

3 minutes ago, SnowMiser123 said:

To @Ben H's point - it's not the best pattern late December by any means. But cold air just to the north instead of on the other side of the globe does make a big difference in terms of making winter weather events possible with timing.

Yup, I’d take my chances with it. We aren’t gonna torch. A lot of the country will but not us. We can see wintry events for sure don’t let anyone tell you there’s no hope until mid Jan.

Christmas snow for much of the country on the GOOFUS

Looks like the whole country north of 40 N is cold starting Dec 23, at least east of the Continental Divide

6 minutes ago, SnowMiser123 said:

To @Ben H's point - it's not the best pattern late December by any means. But cold air just to the north instead of on the other side of the globe does make a big difference in terms of making winter weather events possible with timing.

We have a constant WPO keeping Canada cold and we also have a 5050 which would lead to CAD.

That vortex only has to nose in at the right time as something rides the ridge and you a 1994 type system

I don't know if this one is real but something like that could happen for sure .

You can already see how the torch has been mitigated in the NE

1 day AN 1day BN etc

Boom

The GFS is loaded

1 minute ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

The GFS is loaded

Hope it has a clue

24 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Boom

Gradient pattern.

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5 hours ago, Ben H said:

In my honest opinion, yes the upcoming pattern isn’t the ideal snow pattern. But with so much cold air in Canada close by and a TPV vortex around Hudson Bay all it will take is a well time high pressure to the north to filter in cold air before a potential storm threat. Things look active, and with ridging developing there should be more moisture to tap into then what we have now. I’d rather take my chances with cold to the north needing to be pulled down then what we have right now with a cold airmass that suppresses storm tracks through Virginia.

I agree, it's not exactly a KU or a big snow pattern, but it's definitely cold enough on the right side.

27 minutes ago, FrankPizz said:

Hope it has a clue

Thats asking a lot

13 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

Holy crap. I kind of like that look.