Here's a example from and area processor on why buying farm direct is always best and cheaper

6 minutes ago, Snowlover76 said:

Here's a example from and area processor on why buying farm direct is always best and cheaper

If I go to a butcher that grinds up cuts of beef right there in front of you would that be good I guess?

1 minute ago, Sundog said:

If I go to a butcher that grinds up cuts of beef right there in front of you would that be good I guess?

Should be yea.

The thing with ground beef is its mostly scraps from the processing steps.

3 hours ago, amugs said:

If we rain the 2nd weekend February after this cold stretch would be a failure to the pattern that was talked about being snowmegadon. After this weekends kick to the groin it would be a tough pill to swallow.

Its pattern recognition based off of flawed models. Models fail, snowmageddon fails

4 hours ago, FrankPizz said:

Its pattern recognition based off of flawed models. Models fail, snowmageddon fails

That's why anything beyond day 7, and especially day 10, is just fantasy.

As much research as we have done, the odds of flipping a coin are not that much worse.

We never really got into phase 8 then 1 as forecasted. Anotyer model fail and WPO was to be Neg all month now it's going + next week for a few days and tye reloads fornlate Feb. We fight sun angle and average temps rising.

8 hours ago, amugs said:

We never really got into phase 8 then 1 as forecasted. Anotyer model fail and WPO was to be Neg all month now it's going + next week for a few days and tye reloads fornlate Feb. We fight sun angle and average temps rising.

according to this chart we were in phase 8 for the snowstorm...

Jan 15 - Feb 15 period was the call

This is what has verified over the last 3 weeks

I think we warm between the 10th and 20th as the WPO goes + so I may miss by 5 days

Then I expect the pattern to return from

Feb 20 - March 10 after a p3 lag and the blocking remains

Imagine this today. This is what many were hoping for once all indices for days and maps were showing this potential PNA, EPO, WPO, NAO, AO.hovmollers were showing the N NAO, MJO phase 8 then 1. Listen I know not everything will align and I am not complaining. We are getting into prime snow time for Februray and it is a dam shame we missed this blizzard. Again sun angle starts to become an issue as we head into the 2nd half of Feb and certainly March. Can we score absolutely and I am holding to it but the storm train as we talked about that we had dates earmarked for mod to big storms roughly every ~4 days has waned for last week through this week.

This period in 1966 must have been incredible, Unc can you recall?

I love how you can reenact the maps to todays models depictions instead of teh JB black and white/tan maps that looks like a map from Colonel Vanderbilts era!

Lastly I read an article how in 1857 a storm that turned into a blizzard hit NNJ that was so fierce temps were 0 to minus 5 degrees below zero and drifts were 4' in my area in Bergen County. This was close to last Sunday's snowstorm.

and this

Image 5 of New-York daily tribune (New-York [N.Y.]), January 20, 1857 | Library of Congress

5 hours ago, amugs said:

Imagine this today. This is what many were hoping for once all indices for days and maps were showing this potential PNA, EPO, WPO, NAO, AO.hovmollers were showing the N NAO, MJO phase 8 then 1. Listen I know not everything will align and I am not complaining. We are getting into prime snow time for Februray and it is a dam shame we missed this blizzard. Again sun angle starts to become an issue as we head into the 2nd half of Feb and certainly March. Can we score absolutely and I am holding to it but the storm train as we talked about that we had dates earmarked for mod to big storms roughly every ~4 days has waned for last week through this week.

This period in 1966 must have been incredible, Unc can you recall?

I love how you can reenact the maps to todays models depictions instead of teh JB black and white/tan maps that looks like a map from Colonel Vanderbilts era!

Lastly I read an article how in 1857 a storm that turned into a blizzard hit NNJ that was so fierce temps were 0 to minus 5 degrees below zero and drifts were 4' in my area in Bergen County. This was close to last Sunday's snowstorm.

and this

I turned 17 in 1966, and it was a very good year...65-66 set the record which was broken a few times of the latest measurable snowfall on record...Jan 20th...0.4"...Jan 23rd...2.4" of wet snow turning to rain...Jan 26-27...2" of powder...Jan 30th...6.8" of snow/mix/snow...Feb 2nd...3.1" on 2/2-3/66...there was another wet snow in late Feb with 6.3" of slop...

Like I stated earlier the +PNA/-NAO has not worked out well for us at all this decade. There is still plenty of winter left to see what can happen maybe Han Solos 20 day period is going to be loaded with snow. There’s still plenty of winter left.

I have 32 inches of snow where I am and I am so damn happy.

Last six March's have, in Central Park, 0.5" of snow combined, almost impossible given the monthly March average.

On 2/1/2026 at 11:51 AM, amugs said:

If we rain the 2nd weekend February after this cold stretch would be a failure to the pattern that was talked about being snowmegadon. After this weekends kick to the groin it would be a tough pill to swallow.

30 days of - 12 and 18 inches of snow is a failure ?

Lol. My lord

1 hour ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

30 days of - 12 and 18 inches of snow is a failure ?

Lol. My lord

Ya some people need prospective.

Id kill to break 10" for the season right now but looking at trends it isn't likely.

f*** La Nina's. Im fucken tired of them.

Central Park observing heavy rain is nothing unusual during the winter, but I can't think of the last time that occurred.

Cuba reported its first freeze ever yesterday. Maybe I missed the post here, was traveling. That is pretty amazing