11 hours ago, FrankPizz said:

It got to the point unless its record breaking, no one cares. Sad

That would be the equivalent though.

Northeast USA had a -3 to -4 anomaly (with the newest averages.) Meanwhile 2/3rds of the USA had a +5 to +7 anomaly. Just don't pretend they're equivalent, that's what I take issue with.

Just look at February:

This is sickening.

I didn't post anything about the record heat all winter. Go ahead and find a post. Only a couple times in response to someone else bringing it up like snowlover.

The last 4 months were plus .4

East coast/ West coast notwithstanding

We got cold and snowy and were told that unless there was a volcano that was impossible.

But .4 is .4 and I think after the next super nino that # will increase

54 minutes ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

The last 4 months were plus .4

East coast/ West coast notwithstanding

We got cold and snowy and were told that unless there was a volcano that was impossible.

But .4 is .4 and I think after the next super nino that # will increase

The volcano talk is exactly what I'm referring to from the other place. That's when shit gets stupid.

Or if the Pacific jet doesn't relax it's impossible to get cold here. That's another good one.

2 hours ago, Sundog said:

Your records out there go only as far back as the 1960s.

And ranking go by local averages. Your averages are obviously colder. You don't compare them to mine.

I will bet my life the majority of winters pre 1960s in the Islip area were colder than the one you just had.

Every station in the Northeast that has records going farther back indicate that.

I never lived in Islip before the 1960s because I wasn’t even born. And it doesn’t matter if Islip goes back to “only” the bottom line is is that there were records that were beaten that was set in the late 1970s. For MY lifetime and what I personally have experienced, this was Epic.

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

The volcano talk is exactly what I'm referring to from the other place. That's when shit gets stupid.

Or if the Pacific jet doesn't relax it's impossible to get cold here. That's another good one.

Yesterday was April 1, so I was mostly being dumb like Joshua. For every good point the other board may make, there are 500 that are extremely dumb. It is almost a parody board.

2 hours ago, THE GREAT Ben Solo said:

The last 4 months were plus .4

East coast/ West coast notwithstanding

We got cold and snowy and were told that unless there was a volcano that was impossible.

But .4 is .4 and I think after the next super nino that # will increase

I don’t believe we have a Super Nino for 2026-27. We just had a high end strong event for 2023-24. It’s very hard to get a strong event so close together. I honestly believe we get a high end weak to moderate.

11 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I never lived in Islip before the 1960s because I wasn’t even born. And it doesn’t matter if Islip goes back to “only” the bottom line is is that there were records that were beaten that was set in the late 1970s. For MY lifetime and what I personally have experienced, this was Epic.

Yea I get it. But if I moved to Lake Placid and experienced an average winter for them, I can technically claim it was the most epic winter ever. But the people there (rightly) would tell you you're out of your mind.

23 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I don’t believe we have a Super Nino for 2026-27. We just had a high end strong event for 2023-24. It’s very hard to get a strong event so close together. I honestly believe we get a high end weak to moderate.

24 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I don’t believe we have a Super Nino for 2026-27. We just had a high end strong event for 2023-24. It’s very hard to get a strong event so close together. I honestly believe we get a high end weak to moderate.

This. Now, in a warming world, it might be easier to achieve a super Nino, but I wouldn't predict one when we just had one 3 years ago. I think something like 2009 or 1957 is about as strong as we can get.

4 hours ago, Sundog said:

That would be the equivalent though.

Northeast USA had a -3 to -4 anomaly (with the newest averages.) Meanwhile 2/3rds of the USA had a +5 to +7 anomaly. Just don't pretend they're equivalent, that's what I take issue with.

Just look at February:

This is sickening.

I didn't post anything about the record heat all winter. Go ahead and find a post. Only a couple times in response to someone else bringing it up like snowlover.

March will be even worse.

The city don't radiate like it did in the 1880,s...many times the last day of a cold spell back then was the coldest day...now the first or second day is the coldest with the wind still blowing...

55 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

This. Now, in a warming world, it might be easier to achieve a super Nino, but I wouldn't predict one when we just had one 3 years ago. I think something like 2009 or 1957 is about as strong as we can get.

Really no signs of super nino yet..Pacific would be warming already like it did at this time in 1997 and 2015..For early April it looks more like a moderate or a weak, strong nino

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

Yea I get it. But if I moved to Lake Placid and experienced an average winter for them, I can technically claim it was the most epic winter ever. But the people there (rightly) would tell you you're out of your mind.

Before the Feb Blizzard, people were asking me about the January 29, 2022 blizzard where I got 24 inches of snow. I was in the hospital in Bay Shore and I didn’t even get to look out of the window so I have no idea and the reason I say this is because when I talked about the last blizzard I experienced which was on January 4, 2018, people will bring this up and talk about January 2022 storm but I told them that even though I was there in location, I was not experiencing it. I didn’t get to go out and I didn’t get to see anything so I have no idea.

No last summer there were people from the Miami Florida area who were up here for the summer and they said that that period from June 25 through the end of July 2025 was one of the hottest and most humor they have ever felt and they said it was even worse than what they experienced in Florida which I found shocking but that is what they told me. I don’t know because I’ve never been in Miami Florida during the summer, but I’ve heard from actually people all over America say that the New York heat and I do points in the summer is among the worst that they experienced.

43 minutes ago, Snowlover76 said:

March will be even worse.

April is going to wind up colder than March out here. Mark my words.

16 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

April is going to wind up colder than March out here. Mark my words.

Thats not saying much lol. I haven't had the time to look into the march stats yet but I dont see how April will match that.

Im just glad to be getting rain. 0.72" last night.

4 minutes ago, Snowlover76 said:

Thats not saying much lol. I haven't had the time to look into the march stats yet but I dont see how April will match that.

Im just glad to be getting rain. 0.72" last night.

1.74 here

2 hours ago, uncle w said:

The city don't radiate like it did in the 1880,s...many times the last day of a cold spell back then was the coldest day...now the first or second day is the coldest with the wind still blowing...

True for NYC for lows but we have more warm days in winter now than before regardless of lows. Like more days above 40, more days above 50, etc.

Let's not also forget that NYC has had a population of 8 million since the 1930s, UHI is not exactly a recent phenomenon there.

And it's also warmer in places that are completely rural, like the Adirondacks.

So this winter, while cold, wasn't anything Earth shattering, whether you're in the city or in the middle of nowhere.

For example this winter in Saranac Lake is ranked somewhere like 60th coldest.

Top ten warmest years in Burlington Vermont are all from the last 20 years except for the Super Nino of 98.

So the UHI excuse is really not valid to the broader point.

It was the consistency of the cold and lack of any extended warm ups that was impressive to me. No matter what the new norms are, to get through all the winter months with below average temps is always welcomed. This winter was probably in the top 8-10 of my life. Nothing record setting, but 100% memorable.

1 hour ago, FrankPizz said:

It was the consistency of the cold and lack of any extended warm ups that was impressive to me. No matter what the new norms are, to get through all the winter months with below average temps is always welcomed. This winter was probably in the top 8-10 of my life. Nothing record setting, but 100% memorable.

I agree 100%

2 hours ago, FrankPizz said:

It was the consistency of the cold and lack of any extended warm ups that was impressive to me. No matter what the new norms are, to get through all the winter months with below average temps is always welcomed. This winter was probably in the top 8-10 of my life. Nothing record setting, but 100% memorable.

No 60’s December through February… that is not done often…

Eastern Canada still has a very deep snow cover. That is going to really help stop any prolonged heat as back door fronts will be plentiful during the spring.