1 minute ago, Sundog said:

I have no idea why Chester County liked your post, liking it by definition means you agree that climate change is human caused.

No shit its human caused.

1 minute ago, Sundog said:

This isn't an answer, but I get it because you don't actually know how these forcing mechanisms work.

Albedo is affected by ice coverage which is affected by oribital cycles (which we are currently in a cooling phase, so that sure as hell isn't it.)

The troposphere is warming while the stratosphere is cooling, which is not what you see if the Sun was outputting more solar insolation, that would cause all the layers to warm up. So that isn't it either.

You know what causes a warming troposphere and a cooling stratosphere? Why greenhouses gases of course!

But no, it can't POSSIBLY be artifical warming! All warming and cooling is natural and nothing outside the natural system can possibly affect it! It's all natural!

So are all deaths then lo

6 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I have no idea why Chester County liked your post, liking it by definition means you agree that climate change is human caused.

Climate change is real, natural, cyclical and man has of course done nothing to impact climate to date and man can do nothing to impact it in the future. That said I am all for cleaning up the planet and doing good things for mother earth!

Cyclical climate change is fact and proven based on real data....warm - cold - warm - cold rinse and repeat! Only 120 years here but no doubt the next 320 years will show the same cyclical swings....

3 minutes ago, ChescoWeather said:

Climate change is real, natural, cyclical and man has of course done nothing to impact climate to date and man can do nothing to impact it in the future. That said I am all for cleaning up the planet and doing good things for mother earth!

All deaths are natural, got it

Just now, Sundog said:

All deaths are natural, got it

some are natural and some are of course not

The Northwest part of the Atlantic Ocean, which includes where we are just came out of the warmest 25 year stretch since records have been kept and there was not a single hurricane or tropical system that directly affected us that reached the intensity of Hurricane Donna in 1960 or even Hurricane Gloria in 1985.

Not a single one of the reporting stations has recorded a wind gust to at least 90 mph. In fact, I don’t know when the last time that has happened. I would guess Donna.

There were multiple hurricanes between 1938-1960 where wind speeds did reach over 90 mph in the hurricane and even over 100 mph.

New York City was directly affected by three hurricanes within a six week period in 1954 including 2 within a few days of each other.

The past 15 years we have seen September/October become an extension of summer. While I absolutely hate heat and heat high dewpoints after early Sept, the fact is that the growing season has been extended, and many people are benefiting from it.

Nobody is dying. Nobody is suffocating to death. Nobody is melting, the warmth is leading to everything and anything that is positive. But yet you listen to people and you would think that hundreds of millions and even billions are going to die and starve to death and just live the most miserable lives. One could ever live because we are warmer in the autumn.

Just now, Andrew said:

The past 15 years we have seen September/October become an extension of summer. While I absolutely hate heat and heat high dewpoints after early Sept, the fact is that the growing season has been extended, and many people are benefiting from it.

Nobody is dying. Nobody is suffocating to death. Nobody is melting, the warmth is leading to everything and anything that is positive. But yet you listen to people and you would think that hundreds of millions and even billions are going to die and starve to death and just live the most miserable lives. One could ever live because we are warmer in the autumn.

IF we continued to get hotter ad infinitum, it could happen.
If we got hotter in July and August, of course that would be worse than getting hotter in the fall.

But, as you said, some scientists are also now saying that the warming, for now, may actually be causing a climate optimum, where we have a net benefit, at least for now.

It looks like Wednesday night into Thursday. We are going to get a good soaking, but not a flooding rain.

5 minutes ago, Analog1888 said:

IF we continued to get hotter ad infinitum, it could happen.
If we got hotter in July and August, of course that would be worse than getting hotter in the fall.

But, as you said, some scientists are also now saying that the warming, for now, may actually be causing a climate optimum, where we have a net benefit, at least for now.

There are Vineyards on the North Fork of Suffolk County between Riverhead and Orient Point and the weather has been perfect for it over the years. Excellent wine and I would compare it to anything out in California and in Europe the fact that would even say it’s better.

15 minutes ago, Andrew said:

The past 15 years we have seen September/October become an extension of summer. While I absolutely hate heat and heat high dewpoints after early Sept, the fact is that the growing season has been extended, and many people are benefiting from it.

Nobody is dying. Nobody is suffocating to death. Nobody is melting, the warmth is leading to everything and anything that is positive. But yet you listen to people and you would think that hundreds of millions and even billions are going to die and starve to death and just live the most miserable lives. One could ever live because we are warmer in the autumn.

or the oceans are boiling....blah blah blah....when we have the next colder phase of our climate change wait for the complaints for warmer days!! Heck we heard it this winter!!

37 minutes ago, ChescoWeather said:

or the oceans are boiling....blah blah blah....when we have the next colder phase of our climate change wait for the complaints for warmer days!! Heck we heard it this winter!!

You might want to look at a global temperature anomaly map for winter 2025-2026 lol

Just now, Sundog said:

You might want to look at a global temperature anomaly map for winter 2025-2026 lol

Sounds like fantasy time to me - like we can really obtain a current and historical global temperature?? Regarding that anomaly map - so what "global" temperature baseline do you speak? since satellites? tree rings?? good science!

1 minute ago, ChescoWeather said:

Sounds like fantasy time to me - like we can really obtain a current and historical global temperature?? Regarding that anomaly map - so what "global" temperature baseline do you speak? since satellites? tree rings?? good science!

How do you know the climate was different in the past?

26 minutes ago, Sundog said:

How do you know the climate was different in the past?

So tell me the average temperature of the earth to the nearest 1 degree C for May 1723.....I don't know and you don't know hence "warmest ever recorded" is pure unadulterated fake news!!

2 minutes ago, ChescoWeather said:

So tell me the average temperature of the earth to the nearest 1 degree C for May 1723.....I don't know and you don't know hence "warmest ever recorded" is pure unadulterated fake news!!

I asked you how you know the climate was different in the past. Do you know or not?

13 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I asked you how you know the climate was different in the past. Do you know or not?

The actual limited real raw data we have says no the climate is not different at least since we have had a history of thermometers. Again only cyclically warmer and cooler rinse and repeat. This is really not difficult - that is all I keep saying we are not warming or cooling non stop and forever - there is simply no actual proof of that!

28 minutes ago, ChescoWeather said:

The actual limited real raw data we have says no the climate is not different at least since we have had a history of thermometers. Again only cyclically warmer and cooler rinse and repeat. This is really not difficult - that is all I keep saying we are not warming or cooling non stop and forever - there is simply no actual proof of that!

What makes you think that humans can't have any influence on the climate? How did you arrive to this conclusion?

10 minutes ago, Sundog said:

What makes you think that humans can't have any influence on the climate? How did you arrive to this conclusion?

Because there is no actual proof our climate has changed since humans began prancing the earth....do you have such proof?? Let me assist did you know the earth has been both significantly hotter and colder before humans were roaming the planet? How did we manage to let's say chill the planet from it's past warmer climes??

23 minutes ago, ChescoWeather said:

Because there is no actual proof our climate has changed since humans began prancing the earth....do you have such proof?? Let me assist did you know the earth has been both significantly hotter and colder before humans were roaming the planet? How did we manage to let's say chill the planet from it's past warmer climes??

How do you know the Earth was hotter or colder in the past?